Have you heard of the “We Do Not Care Club”? Should you care to join? In today’s episode, I sit down with my dear friend and coach, Tara Cavosie. We're unpacking the hilarious and relatable “We Do Not Care Club, a viral movement started by Melanie Saunders.

The movement perfectly captures how many midlife women feel: tired of expectations, tired of judgment, and ready to let go. But while laughter is healing, Tara and I dive deeper into what happens when “not caring” turns into giving up on ourselves.

We explore how women in perimenopause and menopause can reclaim their power by focusing on self-worth, purpose, and real health, not just weight or appearance. From managing symptoms to restoring energy and confidence, we share practical ways to care for what truly matters while learning to say “okay” to everything that doesn’t.

Conclusion:

You deserve to care about your body, your peace, and your purpose. Let go of the noise, embrace the “OK,” and join the “We Do Care Club” by taking action toward the healthiest, happiest version of you.

In This Episode:

00:00 Introduction

02:57 What the “We Do Not Care Club” is all about

05:01 Why the “We Do Not Care Club” is popular

09:40 The “OK Theory”: stop defending yourself and protect your peace

16:50 What women should care about

20:10 The six spinning plates of health & their impact

22:35 How blood sugar balance can transform menopausal symptoms

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Transcript: 

[00:00:00] Tara Cavosie: I think because people are just tired of all of the expectations of life. We have houses, homes, jobs, kids, responsibilities. There's so much going on. And then you shift into perimenopause and menopause and life just feels like it's crashing down and it's just so much and so much to care about that women are just kind of throwing in the towel and saying, I don't care anymore.

[00:00:28] Tara Cavosie: Every single day we are seeing 

[00:00:31] Carrie Lupoli: women. Hurting. Yeah. And so much pain. And the problem is to just say, I don't care. But yet we do care. We don't know how to reconcile the, I don't care about these things 'cause I really do care about these things. Yeah. And saying it isn't enough. I 

[00:00:46] Tara Cavosie: truly believed that menopause was trying to kill me, but what I wasn't expecting was all the menopausal symptoms to go away, and it was so mind blowing to me.[00:01:00] 

[00:01:01] Carrie Lupoli: Well, welcome back to Diet Disruptor Squad, and we have a special podcast today, an in-person podcast with a guest that is actually sitting next to me. I'm not just like. Sitting behind my screen, I actually get a person here. And this person is one that is very special to me. She actually works for me and she's, uh, one of my coaches in my private practice.

[00:01:22] Carrie Lupoli: And this is Tara. Tara. Hi. How are you? So happy that you're here. I'm so excited. This is so fun. It's so, we are talking today about. Something that has gone so viral and I cannot wait to unpack it. Have have, have you seen out there, Tara? I mean the We Do Not Care Club. I love her so much. She's so funny.

[00:01:44] Carrie Lupoli: Melanie, we are gonna talk about the We Do Not Care Club. The woman that started it is Melanie, I think Saunders. Okay. Mm-hmm. She went absolutely viral. She did and, and it's funny because I talked to my daughters and I'm like, do you know the We do Not Care club. [00:02:00] They were like, no, I've never heard of it.

[00:02:01] Carrie Lupoli: And then I even talked to my podcast producers and I said, you know, I wanna do a podcast that we do not Care Hub. And they're all really young at work. They thought, no for my podcast. 'cause they're all techie and really young and they don't know either 40 somethings and older. Yeah. And it's so funny because I think, uh, it's that perimenopausal woman that knows.

[00:02:20] Carrie Lupoli: Who she is. Mm-hmm. And so today we're gonna really unpack the we Do Not Care club. What does it mean? What is it? And we're gonna actually put a spin on it in terms of, as women that have been coaching women for a really long time on menopause. During a menopause, the things we actually. I don't know. Need to care about.

[00:02:41] Carrie Lupoli: Yeah. And the things that we absolutely should not care about. There are some out there that we absolutely should not care about. But before we get into it, I think we have to watch an episode. Yeah. Because one of hers, because this is one of her first ones, and it's so funny. Uh, but I think we gotta dig in.

[00:02:55] Carrie Lupoli: Yeah. And listen to who to what she says. Okay. 

[00:02:58] Melani Sanders: So I started this club called a [00:03:00] We Do Not Care Club, and this is for anybody going through perimenopause and menopause. I posted a video asking who wanted to join, and when I tell you we got so many members in this club, well, what I did was compile a list of all the stuff that we don't care about no more.

[00:03:13] Melani Sanders: Okay? We don't care about bras no more because bras suffocate us. We don't need that. No. We don't care if we look pregnant and we really not pregnant. We don't care about matching clothes and wearing PJ's all day. Clothes is closed. That's it. That's the standard. We don't care about being on time for nothing, baby, be happy that I showed up.

[00:03:30] Melani Sanders: 'cause I don't, I don't even wanna be here. We don't have to. We don't care about, um, unpainted, big toenails and wearing flip flops with 'em. Listen, that's a luxury to be able to paint your toenails. Toenails is toenails. Just, I'm gonna wear my flip flops and that's that. We don't care that people around us think we got shitty attitudes.

[00:03:46] Melani Sanders: That's not on us. That's on them. If you don't like my attitude, get out my face. Then we don't care about watching TikTok instead of cleaning up. Don't nobody have time to clean up. No way. I mean, really and truly. If people around us quit messing up, then [00:04:00] we, maybe we would clean up, but that's out. We don't care that we look like Adam Sandler and Wesley Snipes.

[00:04:05] Melani Sanders: That's it. If I, that's how I looked, then that's how I look. God made me this way. We do not care that I have not comb baby hair is a luxury. We don't care about that no more. We don't care about having cellulite in short shorts. Listen, legs is legs. These is my legs. If I got cellulite, I just got sh cellulite shit.

[00:04:23] Melani Sanders: It is the same thing. Oh my gosh. So, so funny. It's so 

[00:04:27] Carrie Lupoli: funny and I think, uh, she makes some really good points. Yeah, I, I remember seeing in our membership group for my private practice, somebody saying like, how do I get rid of cellulite? You know, like, how do I get rid of it? And I remember saying like, what, why does it bother you so much?

[00:04:42] Carrie Lupoli: Like, we all have it. It's actually something that whether you're small or larger and has cellulite and it's, it doesn't hurt heart. You, and, and I do love the idea that we should, it's like we gotta let go of certain things, right? Yeah. But, and, and I can see why she's viral. I mean, that's like a [00:05:00] million likes on it.

[00:05:00] Carrie Lupoli: Yeah. Because why do you think it's gotten to be so popular? 

[00:05:04] Tara Cavosie: I think because people are just tired of all of the expectations of life. Mm-hmm. You know, women. Wives, moms, sisters, daughters, uh, we have houses, homes, jobs, kids, responsibilities. There's so much going on and then you shift into perimenopause and menopause and life just feels like it's crashing down, and it's just so much and so much to care about that women are just kind of throwing in the towel and saying, I don't care anymore.

[00:05:41] Tara Cavosie: Melanie just kind of struck a nerve, I think, with so many women who feel this way, and she's hysterical and so funny, and I've laughed out loud on every 

[00:05:52] Carrie Lupoli: single one of her videos. One of my favorite was when she was speaking into what was like a microphone, but it was Max Gibson. 

[00:05:58] Tara Cavosie: Right, right. [00:06:00] It's so funny.

[00:06:01] Tara Cavosie: Right, and there is, there are 100%. Things that we just shouldn't care about. And there are things that really weigh on us and hurt us and, you know, waste our time. Waste our time and those things. And you know, and then there are some things. That we really do have to care about, like we love Melanie, right?

[00:06:26] Tara Cavosie: But there are some things that you do have to care about, but that she's right, there are some things that you don't. Right? And we're gonna talk about some of the things that we absolutely, positively do not have to care about. Yeah. Because I 

[00:06:37] Carrie Lupoli: think that there's this, like, there's just, sometimes you just desire, desire to be like, I just don't care.

[00:06:42] Carrie Lupoli: Just don't care anymore. I'm just, I'm, I'm gonna whatever. Like, I love what she was just like. The cellulite in our shorts, we should not care about whether we're wearing flip sauce without toenail like toenail polish. But the thing that we see when, I mean, you're one of the people on my team that takes initial calls with women.

[00:06:59] Carrie Lupoli: Mm-hmm. [00:07:00] And it's like we could all laugh about this. Every single day we are seeing women hurting. Yeah. And so much pain. And the problem is to just say, I don't care. Mm-hmm. But yet we do care. We don't know how to reconcile the, like, I don't care about these things 'cause I really do care about these things.

[00:07:20] Carrie Lupoli: And saying it isn't enough. Yeah. But then there's this other piece that I think we all get to at some point, but we don't, it doesn't fit. It doesn't feel really well. Right. Is the apathy for ourselves and our bodies. Yeah. As much as so many women come to us Frustrated. Yeah. With their bodies. Yeah. And I don't, this is where my biggest worry is with the We Do Not Care Club, is that we give up on ourselves.

[00:07:43] Carrie Lupoli: Right. And that's who we talk to. So often these women that feel like they have no hope, they're so frustrated and they're just. 

[00:07:49] Tara Cavosie: Yeah, and I think the thing with Melanie, and I love her and just kudos to her for building what she's built, but it's almost giving women license to not care. And there [00:08:00] are some things that we absolutely positively do have to care about.

[00:08:05] Tara Cavosie: And just saying it and laughing and not caring, it's fun. It's for entertainment, right? But for your real life, when you're. Hurting and broken and don't know what to do anymore, and frustrated, and your body's not responding and your body's not responding because it's this new body now, it's this new perimenopausal and menopausal body, and you're like, what is happening?

[00:08:27] Tara Cavosie: I don't know what's happening. And not caring is not really the answer, and it may seem like there's no hope. But there actually is. Yes. And that's what we do every single day. Every single day. So that part of it is great, but there are a bunch of things that women really do focus on and care about that we can just let go of.

[00:08:50] Tara Cavosie: Oh my God, 

[00:08:51] Carrie Lupoli: there's so many things. The reason this even came about was because I was going through something in my own personal life and I was like so mad [00:09:00] about it. Yeah. And somebody hurt me and said things to me and I was so fr and I called you and I'm like. Oh my gosh. And, and you actually were the one that helped me and that's why I said we have to do this podcast together because like, just share kind of what you shared with me without probably getting into too many details about why I was so mad.

[00:09:21] Carrie Lupoli: Just 'cause you never know who's listening. Yeah. But uh, like I was so upset around the way, uh, somebody felt about me and their beliefs about me, even though I was like. I'm, that's not me, Leah. They were wrong. And I wanted to defend myself and I was so, so mad 

[00:09:38] Tara Cavosie: about it. Yeah. And it's so interesting because, you know, when you get to this age, right, 55.

[00:09:44] Tara Cavosie: Mm-hmm. Right? There's been a lot of life and a lot of lessons and a lot of learning and a lot of, you know, making mistakes and learning from your mistakes. And you know, at this stage in the game, 55 [00:10:00] years old for me, 50 for you. Um. You know, Mel Robbins has that, you know, let them theory. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

[00:10:07] Tara Cavosie: And I've 

[00:10:08] Carrie Lupoli: just shifted it. It sounded so good. And I read it and I studied it, but I couldn't just let it go. I know, because I did care and I wanted to not 

[00:10:16] Tara Cavosie: care. Yeah. I was so mad about mm-hmm. I've developed what I all the, okay, Gary, and it's just, you can't change how people feel about you. You can't change how people think about you.

[00:10:29] Tara Cavosie: You can't change how people perceive you. You can't change their feelings, so you're all you're left with is okay. 

[00:10:40] Carrie Lupoli: I know that was so helpful to me. It seems like the simplest thing, but you had me convinced, 'cause you told me a story too about a, a friend of yours and, and how you guys didn't see eye to eye on something and you, you were like.

[00:10:53] Carrie Lupoli: It was just ridiculous. It was actually ridiculous. But we were like, if, if she's feeling that way about this, like Ma, I don't [00:11:00] even wanna change. Like it was the, we do not care. Puff you were like, I do not care to change her mind about me. 'cause I know who I am. Yeah. If you really know who you are, 

[00:11:10] Tara Cavosie: deep down inside and you know that you're not a perfect person, but you're coming from a good.

[00:11:16] Tara Cavosie: Decent, honest, caring, respectful place. Mm-hmm. In everything that you say and do, and someone still has a problem with you, someone still thinks you are, you know, whatever. The only thing you can do is say, okay, 

[00:11:34] Carrie Lupoli: well, and this is what you taught me in this moment, and this is why I think it was so important and why it relates to the we do not care club.

[00:11:40] Carrie Lupoli: Mm-hmm. Because I actually care. Too much about mm-hmm. My life and Right. What me and what I'm doing. And I have so much going on and I want one life and a purpose driven life. And if I, I spend what, like three or four days, just like. Like perseverating [00:12:00] around this thing that actually was keeping me from living my own life.

[00:12:04] Carrie Lupoli: Yeah. And like you were saying to me like, you're not gonna change your mind. Yeah. And she's just taking everything away from you. You need to not care about that. But not because you don't care. 

[00:12:14] Tara Cavosie: Mm-hmm. But because you care too much about yourself. Yeah. And, and these are the things, Melanie. Hi, here.

[00:12:19] Tara Cavosie: Listening. You watch, these are the things that we simply do not care about. Yeah. And at some point you just have to say things that are outside of your control. Okay. And move on and move on and be okay with saying, okay, because you know who you are, you know what your intentions were, you know that it's all rooted in goodness and, and, and, and wanting something good for somebody else.

[00:12:49] Tara Cavosie: All you can do is just say, okay, you feel that way. Okay, yes, that's it. You don't have to defend, you don't have to, you know, you know, go to, you know, rounds and rounds and [00:13:00] rounds with people. Just, it's okay. You feel that way. Okay. Well, I think, and then move on to the things that mad matter that you do care about.

[00:13:10] Tara Cavosie: Yeah. And Melanie's, right? Matching socks. Uh, cellulite, cellulite, um, uh, toenail polish. Yes, absolutely. Those are the things that we absolutely, positively do not should not care about, including how people see us feel about us, especially if they're. Unwilling to kind of look at things from very differently perspectives.

[00:13:32] Tara Cavosie: Yeah. But there are things that we absolutely have to care about. And as perimenopausal and menopausal women, we have to care. Yeah. Yeah. 'cause if you don't care and you just let it go, trust us when we tell you, because we have been doing this for a lot of years, it gets worse and worse and worse. And it doesn't have to 

[00:13:56] Carrie Lupoli: be.

[00:13:57] Carrie Lupoli: Right. And it's like when you're apathetic [00:14:00] about your health and your, and your body, your life mm-hmm. Your purpose. Mm-hmm. Then, I mean, we're only in our fifties, like it's a long time to live that way, live without that level of love for yourself and desire to move towards your purpose. Mm-hmm. Um, but what you make me think about in this is that the let them theory.

[00:14:22] Carrie Lupoli: In action is okay. Mm-hmm. And that was huge for me. I'm like, oh my gosh. Like, okay, because I don't have the capacity to care about that, about what you think about me, about what you're doing, that I, I have no control over because I got too much stuff going on. I here I care too much about my own piece, about my own, like who I am.

[00:14:45] Carrie Lupoli: Yeah. And like the thing that I think. Really came to light, I think, in all of this and, and something that you even just said, if you can't control it, then we gotta let it go. You have to. Or if it's based on. [00:15:00] Ego if it's not coming from heart. Mm-hmm. Right. So like somebody caring about whether or not I have my toenails done is, is coming from an ego place.

[00:15:09] Carrie Lupoli: Mm-hmm. Right? It's not coming from actual true heart. Yeah. And if it's something I can't control, then I'm all in, in the, we do not care club. Right. I cannot control the weather, I cannot control the traffic. I cannot control what other people think about, or I cannot control how they interpret what I'm saying.

[00:15:22] Carrie Lupoli: I cannot control. How they're living their lives. Right. And I think the majority of us are actually spending a lot of time caring about these things. And that's where the do we do not care folks should really come in. And it's simple. 'cause all you have to say is, okay, okay. And, and we know this is true because we could go, like if you have two people talking about politics and one is on one side of the aisle and the other is on the other.

[00:15:47] Carrie Lupoli: And one person could be making a really good point and the other person will not be wrong. Yeah. Right. Like somebody could be like, yeah, but da da da, and, and make a, like, data-driven point, and the other person's gonna be like, [00:16:00] I, I still will not see it in your point of view. And when you said that to me about the situation that I was in, I was like, you're.

[00:16:08] Carrie Lupoli: They're gonna see it the way they're gonna see it. They wanna be wrong as much as I wanna be wrong, and their perspective makes it really hard for them to be, see my perspective. Why am I spending all this time defending myself? Yeah. When I could be spending my time taking care of myself. Yeah. 

[00:16:23] Tara Cavosie: And think of how draining the defense of yourself 

[00:16:26] Carrie Lupoli: and, and you can't ever do it where it doesn't find sound offensive.

[00:16:30] Carrie Lupoli: Right. You know what I mean? Right. So it's like, but you said it like, if it was like, okay. Okay. And that your back actually says a lot. You make that other person Yeah. Actually have to process. Yeah. And we're be giving them anything when you say, 

[00:16:45] Tara Cavosie: okay, you're free, 

[00:16:47] Carrie Lupoli: you are, you're free. It's so true. But this is where I think I want us to care.

[00:16:53] Carrie Lupoli: Mm-hmm. Right. Um, because I believe that each one of us were here and put on this earth for a purpose. And when we talk to women every single day, [00:17:00] and they're just so. Uh, like almost on the verge of giving up. They're 

[00:17:04] Tara Cavosie: broken. 

[00:17:04] Carrie Lupoli: Broken. And I always say, listen, like I don't sell a program. I don't sell an approach what I actually sell, and I, you don't even like to use the word like that I sell, but like if I talk about what I actually give my clients.

[00:17:17] Carrie Lupoli: It's hope. It's hope and belief in themselves. And so we cannot not care about that. 

[00:17:22] Tara Cavosie: That's where we care. This is where the We Do Care Club comes in right there, because when you start caring about yourself, your health and your wellness, 

[00:17:35] Carrie Lupoli: but not about like, like to me, that number on the scale or looking a certain way in a big bathing suit, right?

[00:17:42] Carrie Lupoli: Like that's about other people, 

[00:17:43] Tara Cavosie: right? Right. When you start caring about truly caring about your health, right? Because the majority of women who come to us and you know this, we've been doing this a long time, I wanna lose weight. The weight, the weight, the weight, the weight, the weight. And we always say we [00:18:00] don't chase weight loss.

[00:18:01] Tara Cavosie: Right. You yourself, we're just in South Africa this summer doing its TED talk on the toxic diet and weight loss industry, right? Women know this when they chase weight loss and dieting, they don't get weight loss or health, and it never ends. And it never ends, and they're stuck in that cycle. But when they chase health, they get both health and weight loss.

[00:18:25] Tara Cavosie: So when you start caring about yourself on a deeper level and you say to yourself, I wanna get to the root of what's happening, what's going on? You know, and, and you understand how easily it can change, your whole life can change, and all you have to do is join the we Do Care Club about the things that matter, especially perimenopausal women and and menopausal women.

[00:18:58] Tara Cavosie: Who were really suffering. [00:19:00] This is why people are finding Melanie so funny. 'cause she's comic relief in the middle of a very serious situation. Right? Yeah. And but that serious situation doesn't have to be controlling your life because we know how you can change it. Yeah. 

[00:19:13] Carrie Lupoli: Yeah. Well, I mean, we talk to women all the time and we say, we show them this like.

[00:19:17] Carrie Lupoli: Chart of symptoms and I mean, there's probably 40 symptoms Yeah. On it, right? And we'll say, how many of these symptoms do you have? And there's a ton of them all centered around perimenopause, menopause. And how many people do we get that are like. I have everyone have nearly every, all anonymous list, right?

[00:19:34] Carrie Lupoli: Mm-hmm. No wonder you feel like you wanna give up. Yeah. No wonder you feel like you want to join the do we do Not Care club. Mm-hmm. And we wanna be members of the We do Not Care club. Like trust me, like we want all everybody to be members of the We Do Not Care Club about the things that we should not be caring about.

[00:19:48] Carrie Lupoli: Exactly. But the We Do Care Club is around those symptoms. Mm-hmm. And it's not about weight loss. We know that weight gain is a symptom just of health and hormones. 

[00:19:58] Tara Cavosie: Yeah. 

[00:19:58] Carrie Lupoli: Just we know that. [00:20:00] Hot flashes. We know that. Inflammation, we know that. All of these things, brain fog. Oh, ugh. And sleep issues. I, I mean, we can even talk about the fact that like, it isn't just about food.

[00:20:12] Carrie Lupoli: We, we, we talk about the six spinning plates. Yeah. Nutrition, movement, sleep, managing our stress, uh, supplementation and hydration, that those are the six spinning plates. And when you, uh, finally figured that out, can you finally started listening to me? Yes. You didn't have any hot flashes for like a year, right?

[00:20:31] Carrie Lupoli: Like it was just unbelievable how 

[00:20:33] Tara Cavosie: when I started following the disruptive nutrition approach, every single one of my menopausal symptoms went away. Every single one of them. And I truly believed that menopause was trying to kill me. I really, truly, and that none you wanna be like, we don't care. Exactly, but.

[00:20:58] Tara Cavosie: It was [00:21:00] terrible. And to be honest with you, when I started working with Carrie, it wasn't because of the menopausal symptoms. The menopausal symptoms were horrific. You thought they were actually just part of like. They older, that was it. They literally did not think that that was something that could get better.

[00:21:16] Tara Cavosie: I thought it was like a rite of passage that every woman had to go through. I, and no matter what you did as you age, you were gonna go through it and there was no getting around it. Yeah. And the reason that you and I started working together was because I was pre-diabetic. Right, right. And what was so shocking to me, and education is power.

[00:21:37] Tara Cavosie: And you yell with that, right? Because if you don't have the education of the science of how the body works. You just will never know it. Right. In whack-a-mole. Exactly. And when you're educated and you understand what it is, you understand the science of how the body works. So of course, my focus was the pre-diabetes.

[00:21:56] Tara Cavosie: Yep. But what I wasn't expecting was all the menopausal symptoms to go [00:22:00] away, and it was so mind blowing to me, the connection between food. Mm-hmm. And the wrong. Foods. Mm-hmm. Processed foods. Mm-hmm. Sugar foods. Heavy dairy, gluten, all of these things. How connected it is to the menopausal symptoms. Yeah.

[00:22:21] Tara Cavosie: Women truly just do not understand. And the relief that came from the menopausal symptoms was absolutely mind blowing. And then I had the one night. Yes, 

[00:22:33] Carrie Lupoli: yes, yes. Right. Well wait, let's go back for a second before you even talk about that one night because. The pre-diabetes, like you came to me because you knew that I focused on blood sugar stabilization.

[00:22:43] Carrie Lupoli: Right. So like having pre-diabetes and having someone that focuses on blood sugar stabilization, like made sense. Yeah. But what we don't realize is that our mood, our menopausal symptoms, all of our symptoms, everything that has to do with our metabolism, our [00:23:00] weight gain, meta metabolic disease. Mm-hmm. Like every single function in our body.

[00:23:06] Carrie Lupoli: Is related to blood sugar, everything. And when we understand that and just. Kind of recognize how food works. Yes. Then it changes everything and it changes everything. It's not to say we can't have certain food, but as we get older, this is like, we need to care. Yeah. As we get older, our body is more and more sensitive to the stuff that like, maybe it wasn't as sensitive to as before.

[00:23:28] Carrie Lupoli: So your one 

[00:23:28] Tara Cavosie: night, my one night, my husband and I were doing this home project. We were, you know, working late. There was no, I didn't wanna order out. There was no time to like cook something. We weren't prepared for any type of meal. And I said to him, the only thing that's in the cabinet is pancake mix.

[00:23:48] Tara Cavosie: Let's have a serving our soul night. Yep. And we're gonna have pancakes with ma real maple syrup and butter. And I went all in. Butter like you would know, but have [00:24:00] syrup. And I was in that moment, I was serving my soul and it was delicious. And wouldn't you know it? One hour later, those hot flashes and menopausal symptoms hit me like a Mac truck and I looked over at my husband and I said The connection between.

[00:24:19] Tara Cavosie: This food, and what I just did was spiking my blood sugar and the menopausal symptoms has forever changed me because I'm seeing in real time right now, the connection and what I just did to my body and how you felt. And it wasn't about 

[00:24:36] Carrie Lupoli: the fact that like I just benched on a bunch of cakes. Like you chose to do that and we, yeah, we talk about that all the time.

[00:24:43] Carrie Lupoli: When you were intentional about doing it. Yeah, but it's like. I'm not as your nutritionist telling you what you can or can't have. No, because you know your body, you like, you are like, I don't know if this is worth it. 

[00:24:53] Tara Cavosie: And was it worth it? 

[00:24:54] Carrie Lupoli: Yeah, but I think so many women just assume because there's so much of this cultural [00:25:00] conditioning in some way, that menopause just sucks and like, we just don't care.

[00:25:04] Carrie Lupoli: We're just gonna join this menopause. Club. That's right. This age is about wisdom and not caring about the things we just should not be caring about anymore. But it's also wisdom to know that if we don't take care of our bodies, then the purpose that we were actually put on this earth to serve the longevity if we want the ability.

[00:25:21] Carrie Lupoli: Honestly, to have our kids not have to take care 

[00:25:23] Tara Cavosie: of us is so flat. We have to take kids so we sure care about, so when I started, um, disruptive Nutrition, I was about about to turn 51. I'm gonna 55 now. But in that time span, I have stopped caring about the things that don't matter. Mm-hmm. And have shifted all of those things into the.

[00:25:42] Tara Cavosie: Okay. Theory and I truly, truly started caring about the things that matter. Yeah. And when I did that and made that shift, my entire life changed. I am no longer pre-diabetic. I know I lost 30 pounds. Um. [00:26:00] No menopausal symptoms. No menopausal symptoms. I am no hook or breathe diabetic. I am the healthy no fatigue.

[00:26:07] Tara Cavosie: That was absolutely drowning me. I mean, I couldn't even get off the couch. I was so tired. And I remember when you called me and you're like, Carrie, if I never lose one more pound, oh, once my sugar cravings went away and it was in about a you, you know this. We talk about it all the time. I was about two and a half weeks.

[00:26:22] Tara Cavosie: Into living the disruptive nutrition approach. And I had a full on sugar addiction. There's no question about it. I had it and I was, you know, as you can imagine, you know this, I was hyper-focused on the weight. I was 30 pounds overweight. And you know, as a woman, you don't want that, right? So I was really focused on that and you know, and you were like, stop focusing on that.

[00:26:43] Tara Cavosie: Let's step right on the scale and two and a half weeks into the program. I was sitting at my desk and I said, I haven't thought about sugar in like a week. This is crazy. And I called you up and I said, Carrie, if I never lose another pound ever again, [00:27:00] this is the greatest thing that has ever happened to me because you just released me of my prison of fear that I was gonna die of pancreatic cancer like my father because my sugar cravings were gone and I now had full control over.

[00:27:14] Tara Cavosie: Body. My body was no longer controlling me. I controlled my body and in all of the blood sugar stabilization, every function of my body started working the way it was supposed to, and I lost 30 pounds, reverse my diabetes, you know, no more menopausal symptoms, no more brain fog, no more fatigue, no more joint pain, no more just, uh, it was all gone in my whole life.

[00:27:41] Tara Cavosie: Changed and you cared because I care about the thing that mattered. Exactly. Exactly. And then 

[00:27:49] Carrie Lupoli: said okay to the old asked because you don't have time anymore 'cause you're taking care of yourself. That's right. And that's what I want for women. I want them to love themselves so much. They [00:28:00] wanna show up for themselves that they know they are a person of value, that they know that they are here for a reason.

[00:28:05] Carrie Lupoli: Yeah. In order to serve that purpose, we have to be the healthiest version of ourselves. And part of being healthy is being able to say. Okay. Okay. To the things that don't matter. To not doing your toenails to cellulite. Yeah. To people speaking. 

[00:28:18] Tara Cavosie: Not truth about you. Yeah. You can't change how people think and feel and Yeah.

[00:28:22] Tara Cavosie: And you really truly, just for your sanity, you just have to say, 

[00:28:29] Carrie Lupoli: okay. Well, we are now part of the We do Care club. We do care club. I mean, I'm still on the We do not Care club. Yeah, we are. But there's also this other care club about the things that we should care about. But we do care about the things that matter.

[00:28:42] Carrie Lupoli: Yeah. So I love this and for everyone listening, like just make sure you're subscribing to the podcast. These are the things that we talk about all the time and that we are really trying to help 'em and get a hold of because it really is. Counteract it counter it's counterintuitive. Mm-hmm. [00:29:00] To everything that we've been taught as we've grown up in a diet culture, uh, loving ourselves because we are of value.

[00:29:07] Carrie Lupoli: We don't have to. Get value, achieve value once we weigh or look a certain amount that we were born with that value and that we all deserve to be able to live a life that is truly fulfilled. So thank you for mentoring me through all of this. You're welcome. And all I do is like, okay. I said it really is.

[00:29:25] Carrie Lupoli: It is putting action to the Let Them Theory every single way. Duh. Thank you for this. You're welcome. Wherever you are on your journey, there is a place for you right here with the Diet Disruptors Podcast. We'll see you next day.