Sometimes the pressure you're trying to escape at 40 started when you were just a child! In this episode, I share conversations with college students that revealed something powerful: the corset doesn't discriminate by age or gender. It can show up as pressure to build muscle, fear of rejection, the need for approval, or the urge to fit in even when it means betraying who we are.

I'll walk you through my 3 Cs framework to help you recognize outside pressure, reconnect with what truly matters, and make decisions aligned with your values.

Whether you're a college student, a parent, or someone still learning to trust yourself, this discussion will help you rethink what it means to find and hear yourself.

Conclusion:

No matter our age, we don't have to earn our worth through approval, achievement, or fitting in. We can learn to trust ourselves, and make choices that reflect who we are. It's never too late (or too early) to recognize and challenge unhealthy beliefs we may have carried for years.

In This Episode:

00:00 The corset starts long before adulthood

01:55 The hidden beliefs that shape our self-worth

04:49 Helping the next generation sooner

09:35 Conversations with college students

16:08 Peer pressure and making choices 

26:03 The 3 Cs: Corset, Center, Crown

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Transcript: 

[00:00:00] Carrie Lupoli: So a few months ago, I spent a couple of hours talking with a college guy who is really into health and fitness, and I think he thought he was gonna pick the nutritionist's brain about macros, supplements, protein, workouts, creatine, you know, all the things. But somewhere at the very beginning of that conversation, actually, I stopped hearing a college kid talk about fitness.

[00:00:20] Carrie Lupoli: I started hearing the same things I've heard from women in their 40s, 50s, and 60s. "I need to be leaner. I wanna look more toned. I want my body to look a certain way." And I remember thinking, "Oh my gosh, he's wearing a corset, too, but it looks different. It's the same pressure." And then had another conversation with a college student who actually had to decide between standing up for a friend and then going along with the crowd, something you think only happens in high school, but it was college.

[00:00:48] Carrie Lupoli: And then my own daughter, who had been talking about studying abroad for years, finally had the opportunity to do it, and then suddenly had a zillion very logical-sounding reasons why maybe she shouldn't do it. [00:01:00] Except I could hear what was underneath those reasons. Fear. And it hit me. You don't suddenly put on the corset, like, at 40.

[00:01:07] Carrie Lupoli: We start lacing that thing up a whole lot earlier. So today, I wanna talk about corsets, crowds, and college. Because what if we could teach our kids to recognize the corset now, instead of spending the next 30 years trying to take it off? Whatever's tightening your corset right now, welcome. You're in the right place.

[00:01:31] Carrie Lupoli: All right, well, I am channeling my inner college student today on this episode. I've got my CU Boulder hat. W- my daughter went to CU Boulder for a little bit of time. Sko Buffs. I've got my hoodie on. I am all in college mode, because in this episode, we are gonna talk about the corset, of course, and the crown, but as it relates to kids in college.

[00:01:54] Carrie Lupoli: And I, I mean, I've spent years talking to women about the corsets that they're trying to take [00:02:00] off, that inner pressure, that, that belief that they have to be smaller to be better, but also that they have to perform a certain way, sacrifice. And I have this contention that we were all given a corset. A corset was put on us, not a, a physical one, but a metaphorical one, one made of food rules, cultural conditioning, the belief that we have to be more, do more, say more, actually also be less and smaller.

[00:02:28] Carrie Lupoli: And just the amount of pressure that is put on us to prove our value, to prove our worth, is coming from this corset. And I know that it was put on all of us in some way, shape, or form when we were maybe about seven or eight years old. Before that, we were allowed to be ourselves, unapologetically us. We didn't really worry about what others thought of us.

[00:02:53] Carrie Lupoli: And then typically something happens that has told us, that communicates to us, that we aren't [00:03:00] enough as we are. For me, it was when I was maybe about seven years old and my mother was brushing my curly hair straight, and I said, "It hurts," 'cause it hurt to brush this hair out. And she said, "Beauty hurts, baby."

[00:03:13] Carrie Lupoli: And she didn't do it because she was mad at me. She wasn't trying to punish me. It was because she was wearing a corset. And it's a underlying belief system that has been a part of us for so long, we don't even know it's there. And the crown has to do with our own belief in ourself, our self-worth that was there from the moment we were born.

[00:03:32] Carrie Lupoli: And unfortunately, when we make decisions that come from the corset, we get very different results than when we make decisions because we love ourselves too much not to take care of ourselves, that we unapologetically know who we are, that we come from a place of self-worth, self-love, self-leadership, self-abundance, so that we can serve others It is not selfish to love yourself.

[00:03:58] Carrie Lupoli: Self-love is [00:04:00] actually a requirement in order to become truly healthy. And so I have been talking about this for such a long time with my own clients in my private practice. I typically work with women in their 40s and 50s and 60s that have been going around the diet rollercoaster for decades. I recently actually did a three-day challenge.

[00:04:21] Carrie Lupoli: I do a three-day challenge a few times a year, and one of the things I ask the women that come is, "How long have you been obsessing and worrying about your body or about food, or struggling with the relationship with it?" And I kid you not, almost every single woman on there is like, "Pretty much my whole life."

[00:04:41] Carrie Lupoli: And so when I think about the college experience and the college kids, I feel like it's something we need to unpack. I recently had four different conversations with college kids, one of them my own, and it really hit me how, yes, the corset is on them, but the [00:05:00] conversations that I can have with them, that we can have with them Oh, they are ripe.

[00:05:06] Carrie Lupoli: They want something different. They don't wanna be trapped in that corset. They, they can really feel like, "I can't breathe." And if we can give them a way out to be able to take off that corset and straighten their own crown, we need to do that. And how much better would life be if we weren't so stuck on the restraints of the corset?

[00:05:27] Carrie Lupoli: I say all the time, diet culture, it's like they laced us in this corset, and then they blame us when we're not able to breathe. And we get to this point at 40, 50, and 60 years old, where a lot of us are just like, "I can't do this anymore. Like, I am done." And we don't realize that not doing this anymore means abandoning ourselves.

[00:05:45] Carrie Lupoli: We think that we have been trying everything to get smaller, which is what society has told us is necessary to be worthy, but it also shows up in so many other ways in our [00:06:00] life that we don't even realize it. And by the time I'm working with women in their 40s, 50s, and 60s, it's just like there's a lot of unlearning to do.

[00:06:07] Carrie Lupoli: There's a lot of introspection. There's a lot of wiring that has just been kind of on a loop for decades. And what I, what I, what I wanted w- for me wasn't even as much for me. But when my kids started talking about calories when they were five and six years old, that's when I, like, hit the button of help.

[00:06:30] Carrie Lupoli: Like, I need to figure this out. What I've been doing isn't working, and I need to find another way. And it was that journey that brought me, my gosh, how many years later? 15 years later to where I am now, and I can't unsee what I've been seeing. And what if we could really help the next generation recognize the corset while it's still being laced on them?

[00:06:52] Carrie Lupoli: Before it's really so solidly on there, we have a hard time really truly releasing it. [00:07:00] Because the conversations that I had with these four college kids Holy cow. It was eye-opening to me, and so beautiful. And so I wanna talk to a couple people in this episode. I wanna talk to you, my, my regular listener, the woman who has been trying to find herself and has been trying to diet her way to self-worth.

[00:07:22] Carrie Lupoli: But I also wanna talk to the college kids out there. So if you know a college kid, share this episode. Make sure you subscribe and like, comment, and share. Share this with a college student that you know needs to hear this. And it's funny because as I was writing my book, "From Corset to Crown," I had m- my daughter, one of my daughters, my younger one, read it with an editing eye.

[00:07:44] Carrie Lupoli: I mean, we hired multiple editors. My publisher, you know, has editors and all of that, but I w- I, I said to my daughter, who just has just very, very, very, like type A, very particular, I'm like, "I want you to read this and really look for things that are wrong." And it's amazing how many things she found. But at the end of [00:08:00] it she said, "I need all of my friends to read this."

[00:08:03] Carrie Lupoli: She was a sophomore in college at the time, and I said, "Tell me more." And she said, "Because this concept of from going from corset to crown, I don't think anybody realizes in college how restrained they are by the cultural conditioning that has just become normal in college." And w- the way that my girls were raised, I mean, we're...

[00:08:25] Carrie Lupoli: Every day, no matter where you are on this journey, you're always going to be working on taking off the corset and straightening your own crown. Always, always, always. It's a daily act. But if you don't even know you have the corset on, then it can be decades of so much lost potential. So we're gonna dig into this.

[00:08:43] Carrie Lupoli: So if you know a college student, let's share it and help them see the corset. And if you are well past college like I am, I think you're gonna see a lot of lessons in what I said to these college kids that's gonna help you shape your own life, but also [00:09:00] ways that you can talk to kids that you know that are in teenagers and early 20s that are still figuring out who they are And I do think that's one of the pieces of this, in that in college you're kind of not really an adult, you're not really a kid anymore, and so you're naturally trying to figure out your identity.

[00:09:19] Carrie Lupoli: And so I think this conversation yields real strength in that time in someone's life because while they may not say, "I'm trying to figure out who I am," they know they're trying to figure out who they are. So this conversation fits really well. So the f- one of the first stories I had this summer was with a college guy, and he knew I was a nutritionist.

[00:09:38] Carrie Lupoli: He's like, "I really wanna talk to you about macros." I'm like, "Okay, this conversation may go in a whole nother direction than you realize." And I was right. It went into a whole other direction. He wanted to know about macros, supplements, training, building muscle, getting lean. Like, I can absolutely talk about all that.

[00:09:55] Carrie Lupoli: And I was like, "Yeah, come on. Let, come on in." He came over. He was a friend of a friend of my [00:10:00] daughter's. And as I started talking to him, he was just asking me all these questions. And I said to him, "Why does your physique matter so much? Like, what does it mean?" And he looked at me like nobody had ever asked him that before.

[00:10:14] Carrie Lupoli: Like, "Why does it matter to you?" And for him to really have to stop and think, and he was such a respectful kid. It wasn't like he's like, "Well, it just does, right?" Like, he was like, "Wow, I, I don't know, but it really does matter to me." And I started just tapping into, "Okay, let's talk about why. I'm not saying I don't want you to be healthy, but what you're telling me is something that doesn't really, in my mind, equate to health."

[00:10:38] Carrie Lupoli: And he's like, "What do you mean?" I said, "Because what we do and wha- what we want and why we want it is the very first foundation, and if you're having a hard time answering that question right now, I think we have to start there." And so we went on for about 45 minutes, and I continued to ask him really deep questions as he started unpacking [00:11:00] the pressure that he feels as a college guy to look toned, have enough muscles.

[00:11:08] Carrie Lupoli: Who was he comparing himself to? Comparison is one of the laces of the corset that we don't question, we just accept. And so when we do things, because we are comparing ourselves to others, it's like we're tightening that lace every single time. And he couldn't really answer the question of who he was comparing himself to.

[00:11:27] Carrie Lupoli: Also, I asked him, "What do you believe this body is going to give you?" And it was really so wild to watch this really confident college kid who, really good-looking, kids like gravitated to him. He really sat back and had a think. Was it for confidence? Was it for attention? Was it for approval? Was it for worth?

[00:11:48] Carrie Lupoli: And we had to unpack all of that, and we didn't have any answers at the end of the conversation because it, it was am- it was amazing. It turned from nutrition. It really... Like, it went into these, this first [00:12:00] place. And we ended up having a subsequent conversation after that where he started thinking more about it, and he said it was the first time he realized that some of the things that he was doing and why he was doing them might not be actually that healthy.

[00:12:15] Carrie Lupoli: And we were able to then tap into a nutrition conversation, but it was so similar to the conversations I've had with thousands of women. The corset doesn't care about your age. It doesn't count for one gender over another. For a 50-year-old woman, it can mis- it can whisper something like, "You need to lose 20 pounds," right?

[00:12:35] Carrie Lupoli: For a 20-year-old man, it could be, "You need more muscle, less fat, better abs It might be a different standard, but it's that same corset, that lace of approval, that lace that, like, you're not enough as you are. Now, I am... will tell you all day long, I'm not villainizing fitness. I go to the gym. I love that he wants to know how to work out differently, [00:13:00] how to eat differently, but it's why we're doing it that has to be the first answer to the question.

[00:13:07] Carrie Lupoli: It's the first thing we have to ask. Is it coming from the corset or is it coming from the crown? Because you could be... have a room full of people, some of them at, at the gym, some of them there for very unhealthy reasons, and others there for very healthy reasons. If we're doing it because we don't feel like we're enough, if we're doing it for approval, if we're doing it because we wanna look better so we can be acceptable, that's the corset.

[00:13:28] Carrie Lupoli: Wanting to build muscle, this kid wanting to build muscle wasn't the corset. Wanting to improve athletic performance, that's not the corset. Caring about how you look isn't automatically the corset either. I always give the example of Dolly Parton, who cared very much about how she looked, but when you hear her talk about her identity, who she was, what she wanted and why she wanted it, she didn't really care what other people thought of her.

[00:13:51] Carrie Lupoli: She had, without a doubt I believe, a crown mentality with what she was doing. Needing your body to look a certain way though before [00:14:00] you believe you're enough, that's where we need to start to get curious, because it really echoes all of the ideas that I teach on a regular basis, the why behind behavior change is meaning.

[00:14:13] Carrie Lupoli: As a behavior specialist, meaning-making is so important. The corset isn't always trying to make you smaller. Sometimes it's telling you you need to get bigger, like in this case. Sometimes it's telling you you need to make more money. You need to have more followers on social media. And the college conversation with each one of these really brought into light how pliable these kids are, how if we can have these conversations now, they can start to recognize it and it might not get stitched into them so securely like it is for us now.

[00:14:44] Carrie Lupoli: So if you don't know already, From Corset to Crown is already a best-selling book, and it's not even out in stores yet. But I want you to have your hands on this because this is going to be a toolbox for you, a reference book, [00:15:00] and a daily source of inspiration. It's going to teach you not only the last nutritional advice you will ever need, but it's going to teach you how in every single day life you can go from the corset to the crown.

[00:15:12] Carrie Lupoli: So if you pre-order today, you get all sorts of great things, including the e-book for free before we actually send you the actual book in October. You're also gonna get a 10-episode private podcast that I recorded only for people who pre-ordered the book, where you are going to be able to get a behind-the-scenes story and perspective of all the things that went into getting to the point where I was ready to write the book.

[00:15:39] Carrie Lupoli: This is the book I needed 15 years ago, and it's one that I continuously reference. And so not only will you get the private podcast, but I got a secret little gift for you within that, as well as a discussion guide and a private community with me and other people reading the book. So go pre-order the book now.

[00:15:58] Carrie Lupoli: Share it with a friend as [00:16:00] well. Start a book club, and get yourself moving from corset to crown. So another college kid that I was talking about had a situation in front of her where there was a lot of drama in the sorority, and one girl kind of made some poor choices, but this other girl stood by her and did the right thing.

[00:16:25] Carrie Lupoli: But all the other girls in the sorority were like, "This girl's canceled." It was cancel culture. So this other girl that seemed to cause some of the issues, she ended up leaving school. And so the woman, young woman that I was speaking to still stayed in touch with that woman who left, and she didn't tell anybody because it wasn't any of their business.

[00:16:47] Carrie Lupoli: But also, if we're honest, she didn't want people to really know that she was still in touch with her. Perfect example of how you can say it was none of her business, none of their business. That might be coming from the crown. But to say because I didn't want [00:17:00] them to know, because I knew that they would be mad or they would shun me, well, that's coming from the corset.

[00:17:06] Carrie Lupoli: And so one day, I guess she was hanging out with some of her friends, and a message came through from this friend who was no longer there, at a different college, and it kinda lit up, and a couple of the other girls in the group saw that this outcasted girl texted this other girl. You didn't see what the text was, just could see that her name popped in, and it was actually on a DM on Instagram.

[00:17:30] Carrie Lupoli: And so when I was talking to this young woman, she said she actually went and unfollowed that girl on Instagram and deleted all the messages because she couldn't have those other girls seeing that she actually stayed friends with her. It's a perfect example of how important this conversation is at the age of 20, because it's so important to be liked, to be approved.

[00:17:56] Carrie Lupoli: I have this thing that I use with my, with my girls, and I call it Do the [00:18:00] Right Thing Flowchart It's not actually a flowchart, but just picture a visual flowchart where it's like, okay, I know what my goal is, I know what I want, I know, like, what I'm going for, and as I'm making decisions, what's the right thing to do?

[00:18:12] Carrie Lupoli: Not the easy thing, but the right thing. Because when you're actually looking at what's high integrity, doing the right thing when no one is looking, that's coming from the crown. And so at that moment when she had a decision to make to delete everything from this other girl or to keep it, to stand up for herself as to why she's still staying in touch with her, or to defend herself or to not say anything, there's a lot of decisions that had to be made there.

[00:18:36] Carrie Lupoli: And the decision to walk away from this friendship because she was worried about what other people would think, that situation was coming from the corset. And we had a lovely conversation helping her think about do the right thing flowchart. Was that the right thing to do? And she said, "It just was gonna be so hard if I had to deal with the mean girl stuff going on because I stayed friends with her."

[00:18:59] Carrie Lupoli: And I [00:19:00] said, just like I say to women when they're talking about showing up for themselves and how hard it is, how hard it is to adopt a new lifestyle, a new mindset, and I'm like, "You gotta choose your hard, because on the other side of not showing up for yourself is disease and a lack of purpose and just feel, like, depression and anxiety, which is hard.

[00:19:21] Carrie Lupoli: It might be hard to show up for yourself. You gotta choose your hard." And so I said that to this young woman. I said, "If you're looking at the do the right thing flowchart, you gotta think about are you making decisions from the corset or the crown?" And that's why this framework is so powerful, because it's language that anybody can understand, that you can coach yourself through.

[00:19:39] Carrie Lupoli: And so when she understood what the corset was and what the crown was, it was really this moment for her of saying, "Oh, gosh. Yeah, I did that from the corset." There's no guilt. There can't be guilt. There's only data, acknowledgement, 'cause we can't go back in time, so how can we move forward? And I think that that's really powerful example [00:20:00] of how it's not even just about body image, but it's just about identity.

[00:20:04] Carrie Lupoli: Who are you? And who do you want to make sure you're showing up as when life is hard? I talk about the healthiest version of you blueprint with my clients all the time. What does the healthiest version of you do, say, think, and believe? And when I say health, I'm not just talking about the food you put in your mouth or the exercise.

[00:20:21] Carrie Lupoli: I'm not just talking about financial health. I'm talking about health when it comes to relationships, integrity. And you can unfollow somebody, decide you're not gonna be a part of their life anymore for reasons from the crown or from the corset. And that was definitely a corset-driven lie that convinced her to do that.

[00:20:41] Carrie Lupoli: And it's understandable. Human beings want to belong, and sometimes belonging then asks us to betray what we know. So the crown question then becomes, who do I want to be when choosing what's right costs me approval? That's self-leadership, and it connects so much to [00:21:00] asking yourself, who am I? And who do I wanna be?

[00:21:04] Carrie Lupoli: For a college student, that framework is really, really powerful. All right. Another story here really quick is my, my daughter. She, for years, said, "I'm gonna study abroad. I'm gonna study abroad." I knew that. And then suddenly the opportunity became real this year, and there were applications, logistics, leaving what she knows, and then suddenly there were literally like...

[00:21:24] Carrie Lupoli: She called us, and there were, like, a litany of reasons why she shouldn't do it. And she tried to dress all that fear up as logic. And some of the reasons were legitimate, right? Like, there was gonna be an extra cost, and she had to find a, somebody to sublet her room in the house. But I recognized something, because fear has a very convincing costume.

[00:21:44] Carrie Lupoli: Sounds rational, it sounds practical, it sounds responsible. But underneath it was, "What if I can't do this? What if I'm uncomfortable? What if something goes wrong?" The corset doesn't always say you can't. It sometimes says you probably shouldn't do it, and it's [00:22:00] so much sneakier when that happens because now fear sounds like wisdom.

[00:22:04] Carrie Lupoli: And it's not that I wanted her to study abroad because she just should, right? That would be another corset. I want her to be able to discern, was my no coming from my corset or my crown? That's the skill The last conversation I had was actually one that I had today. Before I actually did this podcast, I was talking to a young woman who said the pressure is so high, and she was specifically talking about rush.

[00:22:32] Carrie Lupoli: And in colleges, when sororities and fraternities are in that rush time, I didn't-- was never in a sorority so I didn't really understand it until my daughter was in a sorority and I was like, "Holy heck." It's like an episode of, like, a reality TV dating show, and I don't think I could've handled that. In fact, I know I couldn't have.

[00:22:50] Carrie Lupoli: I had an eat- eating disorder. I, like, had zero self-worth and self-confidence when I was in college. I don't-- I think one of the major reasons I didn't, when I [00:23:00] actually look at it, at myself, when I look back why I didn't do a sorority is 'cause I was so afraid of being rejected because I did not believe I was worthy at all.

[00:23:09] Carrie Lupoli: But when you go through that rush and you have to put yourself out there and then groups of your peers basically tell you, "No, we're gonna pass on you," that could be really hard. And so this young woman that I was speaking to, we were really talking about how do we help college women center themselves before rush so that their identity does not come into whether I'm accepted or not because I'm already enough, I'm already worthy whether I'm in the sorority or not.

[00:23:45] Carrie Lupoli: The corset can take a hold real tight there, and that's scary, it's important, it's an opportunity. An opportunity for us to be able to have this conversation at a time in so [00:24:00] many young people's lives where the corset actually sends them on a trajectory. When we operate from the corset, we operate under fear, we operate under restriction, deprivation, scarcity.

[00:24:14] Carrie Lupoli: It's really low vibe energy. And when you're operating in that world, you get very different results than when you are operating out of confidence, love, joy, clarity. Just think about it. You as an adult know when you know who you are. If you had a college kid who unapolo- unapologetically knew who they were and they didn't find themselves getting stuck in the peer pressure.

[00:24:38] Carrie Lupoli: Think about it. Peer pressure is pressure, just like a corset. And if we can help them recognize that pressure and that it doesn't have to actually be there, you can take off that corset and straighten your crown, because the crown was there. It's always been there. It could be life-changing. And it's so wild 'cause we, we constantly say ch- college is, like, where you find yourself, but maybe, [00:25:00] maybe that's not quite right.

[00:25:02] Carrie Lupoli: Maybe college is also where you're inundated with messages about who you're supposed to become, your body, your career, your major, relationships, sex, money, success, popularity, social media, politics, achievement, what your parents expect, what your friends are doing, what everyone appears to have this persona in front of you, like the online thing, the Instagram.

[00:25:25] Carrie Lupoli: So perhaps the job is not to just merely find yourself, but learning how to hear yourself underneath all that noise. That's what I call the center. So when you have that corset and you can recognize it and then get truly centered in remembering who you are, whose you are- The self-worth that you hold, and then learning how to make choices from there, the crown, that's really powerful.

[00:25:51] Carrie Lupoli: So I, I'd like to, like if you're gonna share this with a college-aged kid, if you're gonna have a conversation with a college-aged kid, or even if this is there for you, even [00:26:00] though you're well, but think about this as like post graduate school. I have like a three, a C-3 college test, okay? So whenever you're facing a decision, you're gonna look at three Cs: corset, center, crown.

[00:26:11] Carrie Lupoli: So corset, like literally like what pressure am I feeling right now? That's just a question. What pressure am I feeling? Is it to perform? Is it for approval? Is it for perfection? Is it sacrifice? Identify that, and then C center. Pause and ask yourself, "What's really true? What do I believe? What matters to me?

[00:26:29] Carrie Lupoli: Is it the fear talking or is it discernment?" This doesn't take that much extra time. It just takes intentionality. Because we're going through in our head spiraling about all the lies of the corset. Let's just replace it with a framework that's actually going to get us to where we need to be. So we've got corset, we've got center, and then crown.

[00:26:49] Carrie Lupoli: What would the healthiest version of me choose right now? Not the least scary choice, not the easy choice, not the choice everyone else will approve of, but the aligned [00:27:00] choice with who you are. And then we can ask ourselves these questions. Does this move me towards the person I wanna become? Am I choosing this from purpose or from fear or guilt or approval?

[00:27:10] Carrie Lupoli: And what will this choice cost me? And so if you are a parent, if you are a college kid, this really allows you an opportunity to think about your choices. But if you are not a college kid, I guarantee some of this stuff is coming up for you as well. And so whatever is tightening your corset, center yourself and go straighten your crown.

[00:27:30] Carrie Lupoli: And while you're at it, go straighten someone else's, too. So I hope this helps your college-aged kid, you, or any college-aged kid you might know. So go Buffs. Get your college hoodie on, and let's take this conversation to the next level. Thanks.